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Earache

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How about the same album, but Deliverance? I remember reading somewhere that Mike said he got the idea from a very intense nightmare he had, in which he killed someone. Shocked

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How about the same album, but Deliverance? I remember reading somewhere that Mike said he got the idea from a very intense nightmare he had, in which he killed someone. Shocked


Yeah I remember that as well. But "Deliverance" is probably one of the best parts (if not THE best part) of that album.

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That whole album is weird to me. It sounds weird, the songs are weird, it's just .... it was our first album with Bruce and we were experimenting, finding our way as a new 'power trio' band. We wanted to call it "BRUCE" but he wouldn't go for it. He had a lot to do with it being different and strange, but Mark and I were in on it too. I have never quite understood where that album came from musically. I do know that we locked ourselves in a rehearsal studio for three months and jammed, and recorded all of the jams. I would then go home and listen to all of it and take notes. I only copied and brought back to the guys stuff I found interesting. There's a whole lot more we didn't use that was good -- some of this sort of thing can be found on our "Guilty Pleasures" fan club disc, but there is way cooler stuff than that on those tapes. I would love to release some of the best of it one day just so hardcores can hear what we were up to.

"Deliverance" was indeed about my recurring nightmare of having killed someone and not remembering where I put the body. It's a horrible dream, and I've had it at least 12 times. One of the most terrifying things I've had to go through in my life, because I would imagine that anyone with a conscience would not be able to deal with having murdered a person secretly, gotten away with it and then carried that secret around for the rest of their lives. The first time I had it I sat up in my bed and had to calm myself down for about 45 minutes, trying to convince myself that I had indeed never committed this crime. Well, at least not in that kind of way. Anyone who's participated in an abortion situation knows what I'm talking about, and at the time these dreams were occurring I never ever thought they had anything to do with that, but now I'm not so sure ...

"Five In The Knave" was a story I heard from Robert Vaughn & The Shadows' bass player Anthony Deluz, who's father had boasted about taking on five Navy guys at once in a brawl. I guess when he would get drunk he would reminisce on this and then start to rant loudly in Portuguese broken English, "Five in the knave!! Five in the knave!!" I always found this story amusing and used it in that silly piece which also pays tribute to the old "Slowly I Turned" vaudeville routine popularized by The Three Stooges and others:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slowly_I_Turned

"Earache" is just the three of us bein' bad and jammin' hard. Frank Zappa was a huge hero and influence on me and the guys in so many ways, and this piece is our little tribute to some of his more out there guitar wank ....

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I just love Deliverance. The guitar parts are incredible. Thanks Mike!
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"I used to smoke . . . I used to drink . . . . I used to smoke, and drink, and dance the hootchie-coo . . . "


I've got sort of a predicament in that I've let my son listen to most of the albums . . . (he is six years old) his favorite song without a doubt is "Gravy Chain" - - that's kind of a bizarre one. He laughs and turns up the volume on his CD player and plays it OVER and OVER and OVER. He likes Mike's ranting about chicken shacks, broke my back, stole a snack . . . .

Maybe Doc Love could give us the history behind that one, so I can decide if I've screwed up my kid or not :-)
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"Gravy Chain" was intended as a direct swipe at the CEO of VIA Records, who put out Safe As Milk and the 1-2-3 box set.

1-2-3 reportedly made VIA a small fortune. We handed it to them on a plate (i.e. for free) and they did not pay us a dime in royalties. I have been told that it possibly generated six figures but I never believe everything I hear, especially when it comes to record sales figures.

To VIA's credit, when they folded they gave us their remaining unsold stock of 1-2-3 so we were able to make a little on it, albeit piecemeal. They also financed our long, sprawling (and mostly disastrous) tour in 1995 with Curious Fools and The Throes. Sadly, VIA never paid anyone ANYTHING, and this made me stink with vendors, manufacturers, and recording/mastering studios coast to coast who I contracted to work on those two projects. Thank God Mr. John Davis fled back to his native Canada, where he was also wanted for theft there due to similar ripoffs and shady shenanigans. He knew great cigars and threw great parties -- all at everyone's expense except his own.

I hate record companies.


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I've got sort of a predicament in that I've let my son listen to most of the albums . . . (he is six years old) his favorite song without a doubt is "Gravy Chain" - - that's kind of a bizarre one. He laughs and turns up the volume on his CD player and plays it OVER and OVER and OVER. He likes Mike's ranting about chicken shacks, broke my back, stole a snack . . . .

Maybe Doc Love could give us the history behind that one, so I can decide if I've screwed up my kid or not :-)

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Wow...why so disastrous? The turn out?

I remember 7ball magazine listed a Houston date for this tour, but I don't think it ever happened. I sure as hell would have gone if I had known about it.

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>>>>>> Wow...why so disastrous? The turn out?

Because I contracted a severe case of bronchitis that caused me to cough so hard I blew out all my pectoral muscles and couldn't laugh, talk or sing without extreme pain. The guys had to tie me up in braces before I went onstage to keep me from moving much. It was horrible. It got so bad that I eventually landed in the emergency room in Philadelphia, and was sick for weeks after I got home.

To add insult to injury, my girlfriend at the time decided to take up with someone else but not tell me. I found out while still on the road and we conducted the most horrific and expensive transatlantic fight ever. Then, as if that wasn't bad enough, the tour started to fall apart and promoters began canceling to the point where we ended up sitting around in Nashville at the end of the thing for a week in hotels, but because I was so ill I could barely get out of bed. Then my roadie stole money out of my wallet. Nice.

I was literally fit to be tied by the end of that one.

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>>>>>> Wow...why so disastrous? The turn out?

Because I contracted a severe case of bronchitis that caused me to cough so hard I blew out all my pectoral muscles and couldn't laugh, talk or sing without extreme pain. The guys had to tie me up in braces before I went onstage to keep me from moving much. It was horrible. It got so bad that I eventually landed in the emergency room in Philadelphia, and was sick for weeks after I got home.


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To add insult to injury, my girlfriend at the time decided to take up with someone else but not tell me. I found out while still on the road and we conducted the most horrific and expensive transatlantic fight ever.


ouch...so was she the inspiration for "Rocks in Your Head" and "Honesty"?

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Then, as if that wasn't bad enough, the tour started to fall apart and promoters began canceling to the point where we ended up sitting around in Nashville at the end of the thing for a week in hotels, but because I was so ill I could barely get out of bed. Then my roadie stole money out of my wallet. Nice.

I was literally fit to be tied by the end of that one.


Hope one of the promoters who cancelled wasn't Bob Swan from the Woodlands. If so, I will have to have a few words with him when I am back in H-town. Smile

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To add insult to injury, my girlfriend at the time decided to take up with someone else but not tell me. I found out while still on the road and we conducted the most horrific and expensive transatlantic fight ever.


ouch...so was she the inspiration for "Rocks in Your Head" and "Honesty"?



>>>>> yes to the former (but only superficially, actually -- that tune was 98% fiction), and "Honesty" was yet another jab at the infamous Mr. Davis of VIA fame ~~ gosh I forgot all about this stuff! "Forgive and forget" is the best policy, but be sure to write an evil song about them so they are permanently and publicly punished long after you've forgiven them Evil

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Oh...I guess it's the "C'mon baby Get a grip" part that threw me off. Big Grin

Plus, I didn't think VIA had the chance to really piss you off by the time TTB came out in mid or late 1995.

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How about the same album, but Deliverance? I remember reading somewhere that Mike said he got the idea from a very intense nightmare he had, in which he killed someone. Shocked


Yeah I remember that as well. But "Deliverance" is probably one of the best parts (if not THE best part) of that album.


Agreed. Especially the "ending." Tongue

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I'd have to got with Five in the Nave, myself.
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I guess I never considered Five in the Nave a song, but it's strange indeed.

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Now, that's funny. My point exactly. Smile
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...for all the background info on the songs/TTB. I was always curious as to what went into the making of that record.

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Let me just say...

I love TTB. I love the power trio.

But it was a departure from "Pray Naked" and "Drowning" so I understand why some don't share my love.

My band played "Rocks in Your Head" as our opening song for two years. All of us played TTB regularly.

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Let me just say...

I love TTB. I love the power trio.

But it was a departure from "Pray Naked" and "Drowning" so I understand why some don't share my love.

My band played "Rocks in Your Head" as our opening song for two years. All of us played TTB regularly.


Oh I don't get me wrong, I don't consider TTB to be any kind of dud. I was disappointed at the time it came out that they seemed to have abandoned their mopey pop side, but I actually grew to appreciate the fact that they took some chances on that record. "Rocks In Your Head", "You Still Love Me", "Outskirts", "Flowers in the Sand", "Don't Leave Me Long", and "Deliverance" are all pretty great.

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I've never really listened to that album much at all. It didn't appeal to me, and now I guess I see why.

As far as the dreams go, I don't know a lot about well, anything, but I have opinions and thoughts... I think that sometimes we dream about things that can be so far from the truth they could never happen, because if it was bad but also a truthful revelation, it could hurt so much it would be unbearable, so in a way we dream about something worse but still with meaning, so that the less bad, but truth doesn't hurt as bad. As a way for our mind to protect ourselves and hearts. (I'm not good with verbalizing my thoughts, so I don't know if that makes sense at all.) But they can still have hidden meaning. Like in this case, you would never really murder someone, so it's a way to get a point across without really hurting you emotionally. The real panic here seems to be not in the murder but in the losing of the body. Maybe there was something else bothering you and you were worried about it being too big of a deal. ... I hope this isn't being too pushy, I just don't like seeing anyone struggling with things so I'm offering encouragement. And as depressing as my dumb opinion is, it's still encouragement because what you literally dreamed wasn't true and God's grace is huge. Just remember - I don't know anything about anythings - it's just a dumb opinion.

Also, speaking about not being able to sleep, I've heard that warm milk can create tryptophan (an amino acid) in our bodies and that it is also a sleep agent. You can also buy tryptophan supplements in health food stores. I drink warm milk whenever I have trouble sleeping because I have too much bothering me on my mind, and it has never once not worked. But every one is different. I was just thinking about this because after what happened to Michael Jackson. Those kinds of things can become addictive.

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