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peawinkel
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"The only possible misstep here is the inclusion of “A Lifetime Without You,”.... The song is out of step with the rest of the album and is in the unfortunate spot of following what should have been the project’s final song: the amazing “I’m Gonna’ Run to the City of Refuge,” which is a track that would make Jagger himself shake his head in awe." ~ Tollbooth
Call me crazy but I agree... unless they ended the album with a stripped-down rockabilly version of Jack Spoiler.
And I'll gladly wait another "3 days" for something this good again. |
I agree also. While I love the song it does seem "out of place" on this record to me. |
I agree...it sounds more fitting as part of a Roe solo (Roelo), and the "effin' dunce" lyric sabotages the chances of this release in its present form to get into the Christian bookstores.
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07-29-2008 18:17 |
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dennis
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07-30-2008 03:24 |
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Cynthia
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Musically, I would agree, but I think conceptually the song is very important for this album ,if I have understood Mike's lyrics over the years. The rest of the lyrics are all about the basics of our faith: our abject fallenness and need for God's unmerited grace, the importance of prayer, etc. Mike seems to connect with his fallenness most intimately (as most of us do or would do if we had eyes to see) in the area of challenging or failed relationships. I see thie final song as Mike saying, " I am right there with those old bluesmen and gospel singers of old who desperately need God, and this is where I most desperately need him." This is a greeeeeeeeeeeeeeat album, and I don't think the final song is out of place. |
I agree that the song is depressing, but what a wonderful way to view it in relation to the spiritual realm Gur. I love what you said here. The honesty of the song though is the exact reason that so many of us are fans of this group. To share whatever is on their heart wether it be encouraging or horribly depressing, but still something we all struggle with at times, is the reason that so many have said they are fans. I know it's a big reason I am, so it doesn't seem okay to complain about it. When we put out our own album, then we can say how and what songs should go on it. It couldn't be very easy to create an album.
Not getting down on anyone or saying I'm right, it's just my opinion... but something to consider.
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Nailtatt
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For the record (no pun intended) I am not complaining about the song by any means. I love it and am glad it's there! It just seemed a bit out of place musically but is an incredible song to be sure! I love the lyrics and as some of you have said; the fact the Mike and company are willing to share the lows of their walk with the rest of us is why we connect to them as fans! They are real, honest, open and put it all out there and I love that.
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07-30-2008 07:12 |
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Cynthia
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Originally posted by Nailtatt
For the record (no pun intended) I am not complaining about the song by any means. I love it and am glad it's there! It just seemed a bit out of place musically but is an incredible song to be sure! I love the lyrics and as some of you have said; the fact the Mike and company are willing to share the lows of their walk with the rest of us is why we connect to them as fans! They are real, honest, open and put it all out there and I love that. |
Oh no... I saw it ... you were complaining... oh, and I am soooo disgusted with you right now.... Aaargh!!!!
(nice point)
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07-30-2008 07:41 |
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Nailtatt
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07-30-2008 10:13 |
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Chesterdox
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Favorite 77s album: Holy Ghost Building Location: Tranquility Base
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Originally posted by Cynthia
I agree that the song is depressing, but what a wonderful way to view it in relation to the spiritual realm Gur. I love what you said here. The honesty of the song though is the exact reason that so many of us are fans of this group. To share whatever is on their heart wether it be encouraging or horribly depressing, but still something we all struggle with at times, is the reason that so many have said they are fans. I know it's a big reason I am, so it doesn't seem okay to complain about it. When we put out our own album, then we can say how and what songs should go on it. It couldn't be very easy to create an album.
Not getting down on anyone or saying I'm right, it's just my opinion... but something to consider. |
I'm not complaining, I just think the song sucks.
I'm kidding,I'm kidding! Everybody's a critic.
Here's another: Behind That Locked Door wasn't a good fit on Wide Eyed Wonder, either, and I really enjoyed that song, too.
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07-30-2008 11:49 |
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peawinkel
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I hated Behind That Locked Door. Probably the worst Choir song ever. Oops...I think I just burped a vomit.
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07-30-2008 20:26 |
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dennis
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07-31-2008 02:26 |
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Chesterdox
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...and then gave you a wedgie!
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07-31-2008 07:25 |
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Nekkid Prey
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Tuesday Morning 3am Review |
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Here's Chicago Tribune's Andre Salles' review of HGB! It's near the top of the list. Enjoy!
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07-31-2008 20:25 |
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jeffrey k.
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RE: Tuesday Morning 3am Review |
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Originally posted by Nekkid Prey
Here's Chicago Tribune's Andre Salles' review of HGB! It's near the top of the list. Enjoy! |
A little clarification:
This is Andre's review that he posted on his blog:
http://www.tm3am.com/article_080702b.htm
Andre doesn't write for the Tribune....he writes for the Beacon news which covers Suburban Chicago stories and is part of the Chicago Sun Times family. He also wrote the press bio for "Holy Ghost Building..."
A review in the Sun Times by another writer is supposed to happen...
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07-31-2008 21:18 |
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Chesterdox
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Spot on review.
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08-01-2008 05:40 |
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Chesterdox
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I'm @ work on a Saturday and cranking Dedication to Pete Johnson by Memphis Slim (the link says it's a "sample," but it's the full deal. I have the album).
The 77's should definitely do a cover of this tune for their upcoming album: Raising the Roof: Holy Ghost Building II.
I'm totally serious... Mike.
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08-02-2008 07:41 |
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Alex
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I can't connect to "Blue Moon". Sorry. Not my cup of tea. Weakest track for me.
Lyrically and thematically the closing track fits, but I think Mike would have been capable to forge the lyrics to a musically more fitting gospel blues tune. As it is it sounds quite disconnected to the rest of the tracks.
"Building" starts off strange... to my ears. Like driving with the brakes on. I think it would benefit from a little more punch.
The other songs are awesome. My favs are the Stones-esque tracks "I'll remember you" and "City of refuge". The Byrds- jangle on "What would you give" is another highlight.
88 remains my fav 77s recording.
Alex
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08-04-2008 15:22 |
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dennis
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88 remains my fav 77s recording. |
Yup.
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08-04-2008 15:41 |
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MarkyMark77
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The 77's should definitely do a cover of this tune for their upcoming album: Raising the Roof: Holy Ghost Building II. |
Since someone else suggested a song for a possible sequel, I will jump on the bandwagon, too, with the understanding that Mike needs no advice from me. It's just a fun game.
So, my suggestion would be:
"Tell Me What Kind of Man Jesus Is" by Big Bill Broonzy
And, sure he's been done to death, but maybe a Robert Johnson cover, maybe "I Believe I'll Dust My Broom"?
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08-05-2008 07:30 |
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ciniree
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It's your album and not ours, so don't worry about what anyone else thinks. You do what you gotta do and don't worry about it because no one can please everyone all of the time. There will always be criticism no matter what. A person could be a genius (like many great artists that died dirt poor, but now their paintings sell for millions) and there would still be criticism. Everyone agrees, though, that it's a GREAT album.
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08-05-2008 11:40 |
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