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dennis
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Originally posted by Joey T.
what exactly is a carl salad?
is it made with negative fruit?
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09-10-2008 15:02 |
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Pharmjimmy
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Registration Date: 05-10-2008
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Favorite 77s album: 88 Location: Rock Island, Illinois
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Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction. I wasn't that familiar with the stuff until I heard Mike put it in front of Lust.
Yes I know its a classic...I'm a little slow.
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ciniree
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Registration Date: 08-03-2008
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Favorite 77s album: HGB Location: IL
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Originally posted by Pharmjimmy
Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction. I wasn't that familiar with the stuff until I heard Mike put it in front of Lust.
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Ditto
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09-30-2008 09:11 |
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Chesterdox
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Registration Date: 06-05-2006
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Favorite 77s album: Holy Ghost Building Location: Tranquility Base
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RE: Apologies to Brother Ray |
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[quote]Originally posted by Doctor Love
A good part of the lyric idea for Outskirts was 'borrowed' from or 'inspired' by ..... ok 'lifted' off "I'm Gonna Move To The Outskirts of Town" from Ray Charles' "Genius + Soul = Jazz" album.
Talent borrows, genius steals.
Ha! I always loved that line.
I'm trying to find a recording of the Ray Charles version to have a little compare and contrasting fun. Sounds like it might be in line with the recording I mentioned though-a quick search of Amazon listed 233 recordings of that title!
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Check your email... I've got 'em both on my work computer & contrasting right now.
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09-30-2008 11:45 |
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Chesterdox
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Favorite 77s album: Holy Ghost Building Location: Tranquility Base
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When I saw the video clip of Mike playing with Larry Norman at that cafe I was inspired to finally check out old Larry more than I had previously. I really like Lonely By Myself & Nightmare off of So Long Ago the Garden.
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09-30-2008 11:55 |
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me-is-e
Drowning with Land in Sight
Registration Date: 03-14-2006
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Favorite 77s album: the one I'm listening to Location: Jefferson City, MO
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RE: Apologies to Brother Ray |
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Originally posted by me-is-e
[quote]Originally posted by Doctor Love
A good part of the lyric idea for Outskirts was 'borrowed' from or 'inspired' by ..... ok 'lifted' off "I'm Gonna Move To The Outskirts of Town" from Ray Charles' "Genius + Soul = Jazz" album.
Talent borrows, genius steals.
Ha! I always loved that line.
I'm trying to find a recording of the Ray Charles version to have a little compare and contrasting fun. Sounds like it might be in line with the recording I mentioned though-a quick search of Amazon listed 233 recordings of that title!
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Check your email... I've got 'em both on my work computer & contrasting right now.
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Hey, a big thank you there!
Wow, the Ray Charles is a lot like the Jimmy Witherspoon/Jack McDuff version. Ray Charles is maybe a slower paced, varied arrangement (although I don't know who's version came first or from who). They're all really impressive and great to hear.
Now if there was only a way to have an 'evolutions of a song' package that Mike could sell and be a genre crossover sensation. Maybe this marketing gimmic only works for Star Wars action figure packaging though.
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09-30-2008 15:29 |
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Joey T.
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Registration Date: 05-28-2004
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Location: "i find your lack of faith disturbing.."- darth vader
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Originally posted by dennis
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Originally posted by Joey T.
what exactly is a carl salad?
is it made with negative fruit?
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still awaiting your reply..........
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09-30-2008 15:46 |
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juan ahmal
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Registration Date: 08-06-2008
Posts: 59
Favorite 77s album: TTB Location: if you've seen juan, you've seen ahmal
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All the influences I gained from listening to the 77s would be too numerous to list here, however, a few come to mind: Jesus Loves You, Brian Wilson prompted me to buy Pet Sounds and later on Smile, when it finally came out. Baby Please Don't Go in the middle of Mercy, Mercy on 88 prompted me to buy The best Of Van Morrison/Them. After Fun With Sound came out I decided I wanted to find out why practically every band on earth has covered Blind Willie Johnson, so I bought his collected works. Later, someone wanted the lyics to I'm Gonna Run (the Fun With Sound version), so I sat down and listened to Blind Willie's version for hours til I thought I had them all and then posted them under an old psudonym, Jopawil. Perhaps the biggest influence was Denomination Blues, which I did not like at first because I was into New Wave and synth music at the time. Later I grew to like it, and it inspired an intrest in all the alt-country scene, e.g. T-bone Burnett, Peter Case, John Hiatt, Uncle Tupelo, and on and on.
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10-01-2008 10:49 |
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MarkyMark77
Drowning with Land in Sight
Registration Date: 03-24-2005
Posts: 465
Favorite 77s album: 99 Location: Illinois
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Mike's solo show at the Canal Street Tavern (2001?) prompted me to give "Gift Horse" (which I didn't care for upon release) a second listen. He did "Blessing In Disguise" and "The Wall of Heaven", and I was hooked on this disc. This show also encouraged me to look deeper into Richard Thompson, with two covers ("Withered and Died" and "Down Where the Drunkards Roll") featuring in this show. Also, Mike's version of Elvis Presley's "It's Still Here" was great, and prompted me to revisit it.
And that was just one show. It was quite an important show for me, as a music fan.
I've certainily had more of an ear for older gospel tunes because of his cover of "Men Are So Busy" and the Dogs' "Farther Along".
I've checked out The Durutti Column because of Mike.
A lot of the stuff I've heard from Mike regarding influences, references and covers I already knew, but it was nice to see the same eclecticism run through his tastes. It was, and is encouraging.
Oh yeah, and the "Over, Under, Sideways, Down" cover reminded me that there was way more to the Yardbirds than "For Your Love". If anything, a lot of Mike's stuff has pushed me to give other music a second chance, stuff that I'd heard before but did really get grabbed by it.
Also, "Pray Naked" turned me on to all of the Dogs' bands and Dogs' related artists like Mike Knott and Steve Scott.
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10-01-2008 12:24 |
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Carl Salad
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Originally posted by Joey T.
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Originally posted by dennis
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Originally posted by Joey T.
what exactly is a carl salad?
is it made with negative fruit?
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still awaiting your reply..........
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I guess I don't understand the "negative fruit" comment.
And basically a "carl salad" is little more than a pseudonym.
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10-04-2008 23:30 |
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killmikelove
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Registration Date: 08-01-2006
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Favorite 77s album: tom tom blues Location: eugene, oregon
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Originally posted by Carl Salad
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Originally posted by Joey T.
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Originally posted by Joey T.
what exactly is a carl salad?
is it made with negative fruit?
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still awaiting your reply..........
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I guess I don't understand the "negative fruit" comment.
And basically a "carl salad" is little more than a pseudonym. |
And when I first saw this topic I wondered which Jack Scott was being referenced. Anyone old enough here to know who the other one would have been? My challenge to you..
This is a great topic, btw. Nice to see so many people pick up music based on being exposed to the 7's.
I can't really think of anything to add because my tastes and Mike's seem pretty parrell, but all of you MUST check out the Comsat Angels "Sleep No More" or "Fiction" and after that, you'll hear the influences on Steve Scott, the 7's (circa All Fall especially) as well as other moments.
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10-05-2008 15:11 |
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Carl Salad
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Originally posted by killmikelove
And when I first saw this topic I wondered which Jack Scott was being referenced. Anyone old enough here to know who the other one would have been? My challenge to you... |
This is the one I had in mind:
http://www.jackscottmusic.com/
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10-05-2008 19:29 |
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killmikelove
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Registration Date: 08-01-2006
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Favorite 77s album: tom tom blues Location: eugene, oregon
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Originally posted by Carl Salad
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Originally posted by killmikelove
And when I first saw this topic I wondered which Jack Scott was being referenced. Anyone old enough here to know who the other one would have been? My challenge to you... |
This is the one I had in mind:
http://www.jackscottmusic.com/ |
o know the one you had in mind. that wasn't the question!
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10-06-2008 05:21 |
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