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MarkyMark77 
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| Does the cream always rise? |
I don't think so. Most of could list ten bands/singers/songwriters that never had the kind of success that their talent seemed to warrant.
But, I don't think that's the goal, either. If by "cream rising", you mean playing and recording music, and that music getting a hearing, almost anyone can do that. If by "cream rising", you mean recognition, fame and monetary gain, then, the answer is "no".
I really relate to your post, so much so that my family contemplates how best we can do the things that we're really passionate about. For me, it's church ministry and writing/recording music that I've written. We've talked about how best to do the latter so that I might be able to do it for a living some day. She loves to cook, does some great catering stuff for our church, and would love to do that as her job. Both things are in the realm of possibility, I think, because we can both do our respective passions fairly well (IMHO).
DISCLAIMER: To find out if I'm using sober judgment here, you could click the link below and hear my band, The Double Downbeats, and see if I'm as good as I think I am 
. However, I'd have a tough time giving you all a sample of my wife's cooking. 
I really think, though, that you have to work for it. It doesn't just happen for most people in an organic sort of way, although you'd think that it would. When you live in a world where corporations decide public taste, our culture is bound to have a lost list of talented casualties whose gifts never get an airing.
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| I don't want my kids to be those people. |
I love that you said this, because it's exactly the way I feel about my son. He's probably going to be a music guy (not forced on him by his old man, but just because he loves it so much), and I want him to have every opportunity to do that if he so chooses.
As for my kid, I'm pretty much a sucker to buy him anything musically that he wants. He has a drum set, a guitar, a keyboard, a harmonica, etc., and he's only five. He'll be getting a Kid's Fender Squier this Christmas as well. Again, I never push him, but I try to create a life for him where he has every opportunity to experiment with the stuff he really likes. I take him to band practices, and he brings his guitar. He's in Kids Choir at church. And music is his best grade at school. I think it's the only time he really pays attention. 
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77 bc
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Ok...I have been working on trying to come up with favorite guitar solos. I have determined that it's too difficult a task for me to handle.
I have been listening to "The Boat Ashore" this morning, as it's one of my all time fav's, with quite a bit of tasty guitar work in it. There in lies my difficulty. There is so much great playing on that release, that I hate to classify them as "solos." Mike has an incredible ability to fill time and space with tasty hooks, riffs, melodies, etc. I have an affinity for more of what I would consider the "atmostpheric" type stuff.
I know that Mike really loves his Taylor, but my favorite "Mike Roe guitar moments" come when he's playing an electric. It's no secret that I am a strat fanatic!
So...I am admitting defeat in trying to name my favorite Mike Roe guitar solo.
cp: FWS - "Say So Long to Your Sad Love Song"
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Doctor Love
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Yes, that was me 'strumming' before the solo -- this is one of my favorite pieces of playing over the years. Very Garcia-influenced, and it was cut only a few months before he passed : (
This recording will always stand out because at the tracking session, drummer Chris Dodds could not play this straight beat to save his life. He idolized Mel Gaynor (Simple Minds) and guys like that and could do all that technical crap, but when it came down to doing a simple bass-snare-bass-snare pattern, it was beyond him.
As you might imagine, this frustrated everyone on the date -- myself, the band, and the engineer, ALL of which took turns sitting at his kit and playing the part perfectly. Not being one to be humiliated by any of this, Chris forced himself and played the shit out of the part after about an hour of everyone in the room doing it for him to show him how. When he finally nailed it, he stood up on his drum throne, pointed himself away from the control room, pulled down his pants and spread his ass cheeks so wide I thought he would split himself open, and showed us all what it was like.
The engineer put his head down on the console and claimed he had not seen anything like this in all his years of recording. The worst part of all this is that when I joined Love Coma onstage at Cornerstone about a month later and we got to this song in the set, Chris could STILL not play the part.
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Roe's got some cool guitar work on the Love Coma song, "She Was". You can hear a 30 second snippet of it if you go to the below link and click on "She Was" in the selection of tracks available for purchase. Mike's guitar work begins at the 0:18 mark in the sample (actually, he could have been strumming before that too, but I think it's just Chris). Mike pretty much solos on the parts all throughout the song where Chris isn't singing. Anyways, good stuff. It's a shame more people haven't heard it.
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12-02-2008 11:29 |
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Ron E
Drowning with Land in Sight
Registration Date: 05-19-2005
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Favorite 77s album: Sticks and Stones
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Originally posted by MarkyMark77
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| Does the cream always rise? |
I don't think so. Most of could list ten bands/singers/songwriters that never had the kind of success that their talent seemed to warrant.
But, I don't think that's the goal, either. If by "cream rising", you mean playing and recording music, and that music getting a hearing, almost anyone can do that. If by "cream rising", you mean recognition, fame and monetary gain, then, the answer is "no".
I really relate to your post, so much so that my family contemplates how best we can do the things that we're really passionate about. For me, it's church ministry and writing/recording music that I've written. We've talked about how best to do the latter so that I might be able to do it for a living some day. She loves to cook, does some great catering stuff for our church, and would love to do that as her job. Both things are in the realm of possibility, I think, because we can both do our respective passions fairly well (IMHO).
DISCLAIMER: To find out if I'm using sober judgment here, you could click the link below and hear my band, The Double Downbeats, and see if I'm as good as I think I am
. However, I'd have a tough time giving you all a sample of my wife's cooking.
I really think, though, that you have to work for it. It doesn't just happen for most people in an organic sort of way, although you'd think that it would. When you live in a world where corporations decide public taste, our culture is bound to have a lost list of talented casualties whose gifts never get an airing.
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| I don't want my kids to be those people. |
I love that you said this, because it's exactly the way I feel about my son. He's probably going to be a music guy (not forced on him by his old man, but just because he loves it so much), and I want him to have every opportunity to do that if he so chooses.
As for my kid, I'm pretty much a sucker to buy him anything musically that he wants. He has a drum set, a guitar, a keyboard, a harmonica, etc., and he's only five. He'll be getting a Kid's Fender Squier this Christmas as well. Again, I never push him, but I try to create a life for him where he has every opportunity to experiment with the stuff he really likes. I take him to band practices, and he brings his guitar. He's in Kids Choir at church. And music is his best grade at school. I think it's the only time he really pays attention.
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I guess I have a mixed post there. I suppose you can be a happy custodian but loving your music and ability to create. I guess its creativity and the ability to produce things, if only for themselves that I'm looking.
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12-02-2008 11:32 |
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Doctor Love
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Doctor's does
Seriously, this is a heavy post and I don't have the answers. God gives talents and gifts. Some folks get to use 'em, some don't, some bury them and others play them out. It's a crazy mixed-up world and my heart breaks for the waste that goes on in the realm of gifts and gifting, my own included (although I do a fair amount of wasting of my talent myself no thanks to the devil or anyone else -- in spite of what I have managed to get done and utilize, you guys have no idea how much I waste of what I have been given ..... no idea at all .....)
All I know for sure is that we have been reminded an awful lot in scripture that all the above only goes so far and means so much. In the end, it is and will continue to be about the Giver, not the gifts or the given. This is a hard saying -- who can hear it?
Fortunately Ron, you can do a few things to make sure your kids don't end up like the folks you mentioned. In the end, they and their circumstances will decide, but when we pray hopefully we get to get in there and mess with some of that, God willing. At least that's what I believe and continue to hope. My daughter is at a crucial stage and it's what keeps me going.
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As a Daddy, how do you encourage the kind of talent being talked about? Bruce, the drummer, picks up (figuratively) the keyboard and plays an imaginary guitar riff. The guitarist then copies it. I know there has to be some kind of inner talent, but I really believe there have been a lot of amazing talents that died breathing coal dust, sweeping buildings, or worse as politicians because they never got to try anything amazing. I don't want my kids to be those people.
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Ron E
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This is a hard saying -- who can hear it?
Fortunately Ron, you can do a few things to make sure your kids don't end up like the folks you mentioned. In the end, they and their circumstances will decide, but when we pray hopefully we get to get in there and mess with some of that, God willing. At least that's what I believe and continue to hope. My daughter is at a crucial stage and it's what keeps me going.
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Thank you, Mike. I was thinking of your recent post regarding your own daughter as I was reading your response too, I was glad to see you mention her. It means you still have hopes and dreams, and that gives me the same, though my oldest is only approaching 13 now.
I've hijacked, get the ax back out and fire it up!
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12-02-2008 14:23 |
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ciniree
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Registration Date: 08-03-2008
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| RE: Does the cream always rise? |
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In the end, it is and will continue to be about the Giver, not the gifts or the given.
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Not trying to be a suck up, or anything like that - but this is one of the best things ever said and I really appreciate it.
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12-03-2008 06:37 |
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me-is-e
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OK, I came here to make a note about Mike's guitar solos and forgot about the 'new subject' this thread had taken on. I'd honestly gotten depressed on the first read so left without posting. I'd been walking out of some of some disappointments with career and work over the last few years and been planning to return to school, make sure I could do some decent work in a job I might do some good in and be somewhat good, if not talented at. Maybe even be brave enough to start using whatever artistic skills I might have and share that in some way. With the current health and medical situations that have hit, most of my time is being spent on that. Some days I do wonder if I'll 'do the things I was meant to do' or 'be used as I was intended to be'. I'm trying to be opptimistic and get through the current situations and work to the hopefully better things that can come in the future. Not to get all negative or seem in a pity party type of mood, the idea of 'reaching your dream' some days seems impossible. There are a lot of ideas I try to keep in mind for that though and at least stay a bit optimistic.
On an even more positive and important note, I have the same thoughts and hope for our 5 year old daughter. She has her own dreams and talents she's trying to express even now. I'm hoping to at least be part of providing some of the opportunities and encouragement for those to flurish. Sounds like a lot of parents here are doing the same!
Pardon the random thoughts and possible ranting. Thanks. 
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me-is-e
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Now for thoughts on the original topic.
I'd been avoiding posting since I'm in same boat as the thoughts below. Just too much I love from Doc Love to separate the playing down to solos.
Then I decided to listen to 'direct' today. I have say 'Lifeline' in incredible and that one would be just and example of the kind of guitar work and 'soloing' I love most from Mike Roe.
Fine example there!
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Ok...I have been working on trying to come up with favorite guitar solos. I have determined that it's too difficult a task for me to handle.
I have been listening to "The Boat Ashore" this morning, as it's one of my all time fav's, with quite a bit of tasty guitar work in it. There in lies my difficulty. There is so much great playing on that release, that I hate to classify them as "solos." Mike has an incredible ability to fill time and space with tasty hooks, riffs, melodies, etc. I have an affinity for more of what I would consider the "atmostpheric" type stuff.
I know that Mike really loves his Taylor, but my favorite "Mike Roe guitar moments" come when he's playing an electric. It's no secret that I am a strat fanatic!
So...I am admitting defeat in trying to name my favorite Mike Roe guitar solo.
cp: FWS - "Say So Long to Your Sad Love Song" |
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lifeline is exceptional - the whole thing - but the outro never fails to kick my @ss
I heard it repeatedly back in the day after I ambushed the 2002 product c-stone table and listened to direct almost exclusively commuting from Galesburg to Bushnell every afternoon and EARLY mornings... and that disc is amazing - it still sounds so fresh and perfect to my ears - and for me Lifeline stands out.
I also dig the guitar work on Woody, Film At 11, Jig is Up, Rocks in Your Head, Outskirts, Flowers in the Sand, Deliverance, Unbalanced, Rise, Leaving, Begin, the aforementioned Lifeline and who could forget:
falling down a hole, Ping Pong over..., ba ba ba, mercy mercy, pearls before swine, Bottom Line (I love that sweet tone!) and God Sends Quail
I should mention that some of these are chosen based on live performance memories that get transfered to "how I hear it on vinyl or my computer speakers"
peace.
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12-11-2008 04:08 |
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77 bc
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Registration Date: 11-17-2004
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Favorite 77s album: The one's Mike plays guitar on
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ok...I am going to attempt a compromise on this one...
I shall attempt to make a favorite guitar solo selection from each recording that I have, involving Mike on guitar.
I know that Mike listed "Run Rudolph Run" as one of his fav's. I haven't heard a version that I like more than the 77's version, either. My wife just picked up the Los Lonely Boys Christmas disc, and they covered it, but I must say....the 77's version is much better.
Now...my favorite guitar work on the "Happy Chrimbo" recording is probably on "What Child is This" (surprise surprise, heh heh)
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"tell me, what's worth more
what you'll lie for or
what you'll die for
i follow my heart
and it lies and it lies
and i don't understand it"
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