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larryl 
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i listened to it again today, and i stand by my original review......
except that i am not so sure it is in competition for their BEST..... though it is certainly better than some...
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06-14-2007 20:23 |
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77 bc
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Favorite 77s album: The one's Mike plays guitar on
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i listened to it again today, and i stand by my original review......
except that i am not so sure it is in competition for their BEST..... though it is certainly better than some... |
Currently on i-tunes.
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06-14-2007 20:42 |
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Wild Blue
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Originally posted by larryl
i listened to it again today, and i stand by my original review......
except that i am not so sure it is in competition for their BEST..... though it is certainly better than some... |
I'd definitely say it was in competition for their best. I think that honor belongs to Scenic Routes to me, but Lost Cabin has to be close behind.
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06-14-2007 22:39 |
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Montgomery
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I'd agree that its one of the best. Easily up there with Gift Horse and Little Red 
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06-15-2007 12:11 |
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77 bc
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Originally posted by Montgomery
I'd agree that its one of the best. Easily up there with Gift Horse and Little Red
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Production wise, I would say that it is much better than Real Men Cry. I do dig the steel guitar on this one, too.
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06-16-2007 05:48 |
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77sfan
Registration Date: 06-08-2007
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Favorite 77s album: The Island Album
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Lost Cabin is an okay disc by the Dogs, but does not compare to Scenic Routes, LRRH or GH. They haven't put a great album out since Gene left this mortal coil.
They came close to a good album with this one, but it's still missing something.
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Audiori J
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This is my opinion of that disc and how the Dogs career has progressed posted from the Dogs board;
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Originally posted by Audiori J
I think some people just don't get what it's all about. You either do or you don't. One comparison I always see is the comparison to the first couple Dogs albums, this alone shows a lack of understanding. The first couple Dogs albums were a culmination of thrown away tracks from these guys various bands all put together and used in a format that worked, where they wouldn't have if they were used when they were written. Smokescreen for example was written long before the Dogs first album, but it wouldn't fit on an old 77s album.
The stuff on the albums released after these first few albums had to be newly written material. That is a difference. Actually written with the Lost Dogs in mind. That also coupled with the loss of Gene makes these albums very different animals from the first couple. Not to mention the fan heightened excitement of the first time these guys got together has worn off since the first couple of albums. It's no longer a strange fantasy collaberation, its now a unit with a purpose. These guys now understand each other and know each other and are great friends.
Along with that comes the schtick and self depreciating humor, the ribbing each other. They try to have some fun with the shows and each other. The reason? Because they are not pretentious, they don't take themselves entirely seriously. This is not a new phenomenon, Daniel Amos started out as an accoustic trio that made some great country-ish songs with some schtick thrown in.
You don't get Mike Roe without some blistering guitar and some sad soulfull songs. You don't get Derri Daugherty without his pleasing vocals and atmospheric feel. You don't get Terry Taylor without his incredible songwriting and wacky schtick. Throw them together and you get the Lost Dogs for what they are. You either love it or hate it for what it is.
As this band has grown closer together they are no longer what we had at the beginning, they are a band where each members influence is clearly seen and they understand each other and what they are as a whole.
Looking back, from the very first song on the very first album we were told where they were going, you either sit back and enjoy the ride with them or are left behind.
Yeah we'll take the scenic routes
(and stop and smell the roses)
find out what it's all about
(with eyes wide open)
(with wide-eyed wonder)
(theres's nowhere else I'd rather be)
(chase the endless summer)
Paint the common things with mystery
and renovate our history
when we take the scenic routes
the cloud enfolded Trinity
unpacks the ancient tapestry
when we take the scenic routes
Mutt could be seen as "renovating their history", while Ilsand Dreams is a nice "stop to smell the roses", and the Lost Cabin is another example of "painting the common things with mystery".
Sometimes the lyrics hold tiny keys that help you unlock the mysterious metaphorical actual points of the songs. Some people miss them but some people find them. For example, from the song "Only One Bum in Cornoa Del Mar" we have this line;
Down at one local park bench
under a blanket called "Home"
the rain falling hard now
but I assure you he's never alone
He's always got an invisible buddy there
They speak to each other in tongues
Once I think I heard them muttering
calling all of us "stinking C.D.M. bums!"
Who could the invisble buddy be that you speak to in tongues?
Now all this happened years ago
Sadly today our hero's not around
Some say he's been seen in Fresno
others say they heard he drowned
Still others swear he got baptized,
spreading the Word both near and far
and some of us think he may be
the richest man who ever
lived in Corona Del Mar
Matthew 25:40
And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
There is almost always more there than meets the eye. Some people get it and some people don't. Occassionally they have to throw in a song that makes the point more obvious for the obtuse. This time around that song is "Thats Where Jesus Is", earlier it was "Breathe Deep" and "Pray Where You Are".
This is a great album from a great band that has grown together. Brothers finding their way down the road of life with all its unexpected bumps, twists and turns, like the personal song "Whispering Memories" is testament to. I for one am glad to be along for the ride, because heck, we are headed to the same place. The message is driven home, as are we, when the wheel has been given to Christ. |
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06-16-2007 08:32 |
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77 bc
Radioactive Hatchling
Registration Date: 11-17-2004
Posts: 9,890
Favorite 77s album: The one's Mike plays guitar on
Location: Springtown
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Originally posted by Audiori J
This is my opinion of that disc and how the Dogs career has progressed posted from the Dogs board;
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Originally posted by Audiori J
I think some people just don't get what it's all about. You either do or you don't. One comparison I always see is the comparison to the first couple Dogs albums, this alone shows a lack of understanding. The first couple Dogs albums were a culmination of thrown away tracks from these guys various bands all put together and used in a format that worked, where they wouldn't have if they were used when they were written. Smokescreen for example was written long before the Dogs first album, but it wouldn't fit on an old 77s album.
The stuff on the albums released after these first few albums had to be newly written material. That is a difference. Actually written with the Lost Dogs in mind. That also coupled with the loss of Gene makes these albums very different animals from the first couple. Not to mention the fan heightened excitement of the first time these guys got together has worn off since the first couple of albums. It's no longer a strange fantasy collaberation, its now a unit with a purpose. These guys now understand each other and know each other and are great friends.
Along with that comes the schtick and self depreciating humor, the ribbing each other. They try to have some fun with the shows and each other. The reason? Because they are not pretentious, they don't take themselves entirely seriously. This is not a new phenomenon, Daniel Amos started out as an accoustic trio that made some great country-ish songs with some schtick thrown in.
You don't get Mike Roe without some blistering guitar and some sad soulfull songs. You don't get Derri Daugherty without his pleasing vocals and atmospheric feel. You don't get Terry Taylor without his incredible songwriting and wacky schtick. Throw them together and you get the Lost Dogs for what they are. You either love it or hate it for what it is.
As this band has grown closer together they are no longer what we had at the beginning, they are a band where each members influence is clearly seen and they understand each other and what they are as a whole.
Looking back, from the very first song on the very first album we were told where they were going, you either sit back and enjoy the ride with them or are left behind.
Yeah we'll take the scenic routes
(and stop and smell the roses)
find out what it's all about
(with eyes wide open)
(with wide-eyed wonder)
(theres's nowhere else I'd rather be)
(chase the endless summer)
Paint the common things with mystery
and renovate our history
when we take the scenic routes
the cloud enfolded Trinity
unpacks the ancient tapestry
when we take the scenic routes
Mutt could be seen as "renovating their history", while Ilsand Dreams is a nice "stop to smell the roses", and the Lost Cabin is another example of "painting the common things with mystery".
Sometimes the lyrics hold tiny keys that help you unlock the mysterious metaphorical actual points of the songs. Some people miss them but some people find them. For example, from the song "Only One Bum in Cornoa Del Mar" we have this line;
Down at one local park bench
under a blanket called "Home"
the rain falling hard now
but I assure you he's never alone
He's always got an invisible buddy there
They speak to each other in tongues
Once I think I heard them muttering
calling all of us "stinking C.D.M. bums!"
Who could the invisble buddy be that you speak to in tongues?
Now all this happened years ago
Sadly today our hero's not around
Some say he's been seen in Fresno
others say they heard he drowned
Still others swear he got baptized,
spreading the Word both near and far
and some of us think he may be
the richest man who ever
lived in Corona Del Mar
Matthew 25:40
And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
There is almost always more there than meets the eye. Some people get it and some people don't. Occassionally they have to throw in a song that makes the point more obvious for the obtuse. This time around that song is "Thats Where Jesus Is", earlier it was "Breathe Deep" and "Pray Where You Are".
This is a great album from a great band that has grown together. Brothers finding their way down the road of life with all its unexpected bumps, twists and turns, like the personal song "Whispering Memories" is testament to. I for one am glad to be along for the ride, because heck, we are headed to the same place. The message is driven home, as are we, when the wheel has been given to Christ. |
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Definitely see your position here, and like I have said...it's the disc that's been in the car's CD player for the past month. I am REALLY working at letting the disc grow on me.
Production on it is WAY better than Real Men Cry. I like Real Men Cry, but I wish that it was cleaner, in the production.
so...I am working on it, yes I "get it", and yes the throwback into the "wonderama-ish" vocals in "...Corona del Mar", are still hard for me to like. That's too bad, because I do like the story.
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what you'll lie for or
what you'll die for
i follow my heart
and it lies and it lies
and i don't understand it"
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06-16-2007 08:53 |
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Audiori J
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Yeah the original post on the Dogs board was more of a reply to someone else, who basically said that they didn't get it.
I like the versatility of the original couple albums, and I miss Gene's contribution. But I also like what they are becoming as a unit. I think the last couple albums they have really started to blend together into a band creating new music instead of a collaboration of seperate people bringing individual things to the table.
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06-16-2007 09:36 |
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eugene
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Originally posted by 77sfan
Lost Cabin is an okay disc by the Dogs, but does not compare to Scenic Routes, LRRH or GH. They haven't put a great album out since Gene left this mortal coil.
They came close to a good album with this one, but it's still missing something. |
it is the best album sans gene..... 
nobody could ever replace him on singing or engineering.....
and i do not consider that being negative.... 
buy it if you don't already own it! 
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06-16-2007 10:01 |
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audiori
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I agree with that I think.
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Originally posted by Montgomery
Its sad and painful at times, |
Especially when "Rebecca Go Home," "Jimmy," "Dunce Cap" or "The Last Testament" comes up in shuffle play... 
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06-16-2007 13:18 |
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77sfan
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It is a good album, just not a great one. I think NCT is their best work sans gene.
Don't get me wrong here, I'm not knocking the Dogs, but Lost Cabin is just not a disk that has gelled with me yet.
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06-16-2007 13:21 |
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77 bc
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Registration Date: 11-17-2004
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Originally posted by audiori
I agree with that I think.
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Originally posted by Montgomery
Its sad and painful at times, |
Especially when "Rebecca Go Home," "Jimmy," "Dunce Cap" or "The Last Testament" comes up in shuffle play...
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Last Testament, Fortunate Sons, Jimmy & Dunce Cap have always been 4 of my favorite Dog's tunes, even prior to Gene's passing. "Rebecca Go Home" hit me especially hard when my mother passed away a couple of years ago, after a long illness.
I haven't given up on the Cabin.
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what you'll lie for or
what you'll die for
i follow my heart
and it lies and it lies
and i don't understand it"
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06-16-2007 14:49 |
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Chesterdox
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I got Lost Cabins about 3 weeks ago and it has grown on me a lot since then. Broken Like Brooklyn is absolutely beautiful--an instant classic. One More Day and Hardening My Heart are incredible and prove again that Mike is not just your 'burn it up' guy, but possibly the best sweet-song singer ever. And the production on this album is amazing, also.
I do think there is one flaw: Only One Bum. It's a good song, but it doesn't belong on this album. Remove that song and Lost Cabins is a masterpiece. To me it's akin to Over the Rhine's Back Porch re-release of Good Dog Bad Dog. It was a great album when it was an independant release... but when released on Back Porch having axed A Gospel Number, Jack's Valentine, & adding It's Never Quite What It Seems, it became a masterpiece.
As far as where it belongs in the ranks of other Dogs albums, I'm one of those who think Scenic Routes & Riding Hood are practically sacred. I agree that comparing Lost Cabins to those albums is something of an apples-n-oranges comparison, but that's mainly because I have such an emotional attachment for the first two: they remind me of when I was a young Christian hearing this amazing music for the first time--any new Dogs album can't recreate that. So, I'd say that besides SR & LRRH, Lost Cabins is the Dogs best album, hands down.
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06-28-2007 07:32 |
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MarkyMark77
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Most reviews always compare the new material with the artist's previous work. I try to stay away from that, and ask the question, "if this were a new artist, with no back catalog, and I had no previous experience with them, how would I like this CD?" I try to listen based on the merits of the music alone, not my expectations. Sometimes, it's hard.
But, in that vein of thinking, "Lost Cabin" really shines for me. "Broken Like Brooklyn" is probably my favorite, although they're all great. I'm not really sure why this disc doesn't resonate with some fans: it's the logical progression of what the Dogs have become, evolving from a side project to an actual band in their own right.
77 BC, those were my favorites from the first two discs, too. I play and sing "Angus Shane" all the time when it's just me and my guitar.
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06-28-2007 11:07 |
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LuR KiNG
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I think I will DiG this out this weekend
maybe even Island Dreams & a trip to the local beach 
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06-28-2007 15:00 |
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77sfan
Registration Date: 06-08-2007
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I think I will DiG this out this weekend
maybe even Island Dreams & a trip to the local beach
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I'm with ya, I'll give Lost Cabin another chance or two, but not Island Dreams.
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06-28-2007 16:20 |
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Fatman
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Beautiful album. Breathtaking. Some of the best melodies and lyrics I've heard in years.
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Alex
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As for now, TLCATMT has a much heavier rotation in my stereo than SR and LLRH during the last months.
GRS Pt1 is still my fav Dogs CD.
Alex
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