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Posted by Nailtatt on 08-05-2008 at12:13:

RE: Lifetime In Wartime

quote:

Originally posted by Doctor Love
We put it on there because:

a) it was part of the original sessions, which was curious

b) we don't put out singles so there's your single (I miss the 80's in England -- a single once a month whether you wanted it or not. The Smiths created an entire world with them. I miss that.)

c) we tried to be generous to our fans

d) I hate using the term "bonus track" because it looks clunky, so we left that off, but really ... that's what it was

e) woulda put it as a 'hidden track' but everyone complains when you do that

f) everyone complained anyway

g) no good deed goes unpunished

h) I regret putting it out now. Mark says screw everyone who cares and Bruce has no comment

Mike, just so you know, i am glad you did! I absolutely love the song! It speaks to me tremedously. Your good deed is not being punished. Sorry you take it that way! I certainly didn't mean to sound as if I was unhappy about it, because that is not the case. Nor did I mean to come across as ungrateful. That is not the case as well. Again, I love the song and I apologize if you took it as criticism. Thank you very much for putting it on there! I mean that.

~Darryn

Posted by Doctor Love on 08-05-2008 at12:41:

RE: Lifetime In Wartime

Hey it's ok, I'm like not all bent outta shape or anything. Just kinda surprised at the reaction to it from critics, etc.

What I am miffed about is how long we spent mixing that song compared to the others. Bruce went on a tear with it and wasted incredible amounts of mix time on it that I wish we'd put into the other ones, but they all came out good anyway. Sometimes you gotta beat it on down the line.

Posted by Joey T. on 08-05-2008 at13:18:

Cool

quote:

Originally posted by Alex
I can't connect to "Blue Moon". Sorry. Not my cup of tea. Weakest track for me.

i concur... Red Face

not complaining, though..... elvis is just not my cup of tea! Tongue

is it elvis? Confused

if not, sounds like him.......
every other song is absolutely fabulous!!! Pleased

Posted by Ping Pong Over the Abyss on 08-05-2008 at15:52:

I really don't understand all the animosity toward ANY of the tracks on this album...they're all FLIPPIN BRILLIANT!!

Keep up the good work--Dave, Bruce, Dr. Love. Big Grin

Posted by Mark on 08-05-2008 at16:40:

Mike,

I'm glad you put the last song on. It's a great song.

I, too, wondered for awhile whether a covers album would be great. You've been telling us for a couple of years how proud you've been of this work. I love this new album. It rocks. You've taken the songs and injected them with that 77's sauce and turned out one of the best albums of your career. My daughter keeps asking me to play it for her. She favorites are "City Of Refuge" and "Working On A Building".I was over at my folks house recently. I brought HGB with me and played it. My mother loved it. Including me, that's 3 generations that all love it.

I hope you can generate great sales!

Posted by peawinkel on 08-05-2008 at19:07:

It's a great song, it's just quite a departure from the rest. As fans, I believe we all appreciate it a lot. At the same time, we would like for you guys to have commercial success, even if at the CCM store. The fact that your music caters to us may hurt your exposure chances. It seems selfish on our part, keeping your great music to ourselves. I wish it had a greater audience, for the sake of the monetary benefits you guys could & should reap.

Posted by dennis on 08-05-2008 at19:26:

RE: Lifetime In Wartime

quote:

Originally posted by Doctor Love
We put it on there because:

a) it was part of the original sessions, which was curious

b) we don't put out singles so there's your single (I miss the 80's in England -- a single once a month whether you wanted it or not. The Smiths created an entire world with them. I miss that.)

c) we tried to be generous to our fans

d) I hate using the term "bonus track" because it looks clunky, so we left that off, but really ... that's what it was

e) woulda put it as a 'hidden track' but everyone complains when you do that

f) everyone complained anyway

g) no good deed goes unpunished

h) I regret putting it out now. Mark says screw everyone who cares and Bruce has no comment

Hidden track? Hell No!
That is a great closing track!
No regrets are needed.

It's a tradition among albums that the last song should stand apart
and be somewhat different front the rest of it.

"It's all over Now, Baby Blue" on Bringing it all Back Home.
"Tomorrow Never Knows" on Revolver.
"Sad Eyed Lady of the Low Lands" on Blonde onBlonde.
"The Shape of Air" on Darn Floor - Big Bite.
"I could Laugh" on the Island record.

If the critics don't get it... F**K 'em!
It just means they don't get it.

Posted by jeffrey k. on 08-05-2008 at20:43:

quote:

Originally posted by peawinkel
It's a great song, it's just quite a departure from the rest. As fans, I believe we all appreciate it a lot. At the same time, we would like for you guys to have commercial success, even if at the CCM store. The fact that your music caters to us may hurt your exposure chances. It seems selfish on our part, keeping your great music to ourselves. I wish it had a greater audience, for the sake of the monetary benefits you guys could & should reap.

Pea...(and any other interested fans...)

Contrary to what you might think, a phrase like "effin dunce" isn't going to keep this CD out of your local Christian bookstore. The reality is, maybe 10 years ago this would have been an issue...maybe....but now it's about stores selling what is (more or less) guaranteed will sell.

Distribution companies look WAY less at content these days, and more at overall sales potential. If they think it will sell, and you can prove to them it will sell, they might stick it in stores. But the name of the game is really money.....not content. Trust me on this.

jeffrey k.

Posted by Doctor Love on 08-05-2008 at23:48:

effin dunce cap

Ahem ... I sang 'laughin' dunce, you dirty minders ~~ Tongue

Posted by God-rules on 08-06-2008 at05:36:

It is a great song......I tend to list on shuffle frequently to most discs, so I don't get too anticipatory and want to skip the occaisional one I'm not thrilled over or to jump to the upcoming fav. That's just me.

As for Doc's last picture, I seem to recall that many years ago this place sponsored a women's softball team.....

Michaelorsothestorygoes

Posted by LuR KiNG on 08-06-2008 at06:36:

Question

Doctor LoVe,

quote:

Originally posted by Nekkid Prey
After spinning the released version of HGB non-stop for the last month, I went back to listen to the basic tracks laid down 2 years ago. I'll be danged if the rough session tracks (including Mike's guide vocals) aren't good enough to be released as a bonus disk down the road (Working on a Holy Ghost Building?), but the good Doctor isn't into that idea. In fact, when I mentioned that I had gone back to listen to the basic tracks and had an idea, it was squashed before I could even vocalize it. Then again, if the fans cry loud enough, maybe ... Tongue

Please, release the Working on a Holy Ghost Building CD

DaLe

Posted by Gur on 08-06-2008 at08:52:

i thought it was effin dunce
and I had the same concern as Pea
I will sometimes send a copy of the new 77s release to the local CCM channel (which is always ignored), and I was sure they would reject it immediately because of that line.

Posted by larryl on 08-06-2008 at09:50:

then you should repeat the lie the good doctor just told. Shocked

Posted by LuR KiNG on 08-06-2008 at09:56:

Shocked

'laughin' 'chit-chat'

Tongue

Posted by Gur on 08-06-2008 at10:04:

Shocked

Posted by jeffrey k. on 08-06-2008 at12:07:

quote:

Originally posted by larryl
then you should repeat the lie the good doctor just told. Shocked

No kidding! Roll Eyes

jeffrey k.

Posted by LuR KiNG on 08-06-2008 at14:10:

Sad

oh great,

I suppose now there will be a curdled & a Uncurdled Version of HGB Roll Eyes

Posted by Doctor Love on 08-06-2008 at15:39:

Doc Love advances the plot

I, for one, would like to move out of the HG building and move into a funky old coffeehouse where aging bearded longhaired men sit around and play chess and beatnik chicks wanna read you their latest poems ..

There's a crazy little shack beyond the tracks
And ev'rybody calls it the sugar shack
Well, it's just a coffeehouse and it's made out of wood
Expresso coffee tastes mighty good
That's not the reason why I've got to get back
To that sugar shack, whoa baby
To that sugar shack ...

Posted by Gur on 08-06-2008 at17:05:

I've already got a beatnick chick, and you will have to drag me kicking and screaming out of the HGB.

I know, I know, you will be happy to just leave me behind with those old pews.

Posted by dennis on 08-06-2008 at18:53:

What are we talking about again?

All I can think about is collecting a ton of deleted Smiths Singles.