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Posted by peawinkel on 07-29-2008 at18:17:

 

quote:

Originally posted by Nailtatt quote: Originally posted by Chesterdox "The only possible misstep here is the inclusion of “A Lifetime Without You,”.... The song is out of step with the rest of the album and is in the unfortunate spot of following what should have been the project’s final song: the amazing “I’m Gonna’ Run to the City of Refuge,” which is a track that would make Jagger himself shake his head in awe." ~ Tollbooth Call me crazy but I agree... unless they ended the album with a stripped-down rockabilly version of Jack Spoiler. And I'll gladly wait another "3 days" for something this good again. I agree also. While I love the song it does seem "out of place" on this record to me.

I agree...it sounds more fitting as part of a Roe solo (Roelo), and the "effin' dunce" lyric sabotages the chances of this release in its present form to get into the Christian bookstores.

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Posted by dennis on 07-30-2008 at03:24:

  This is the end, My only friend.

It's a tradition among albums that the last song should stand apart
and be somewhat different front the rest of it.

It's is after all the closer, the benediction.


"It's all over Now, Baby Blue" on Bringing it all Back Home.
"Tomorrow Never Knows" on Revolver.
"Sad Eyed Lady of the Low Lands" on Blonde onBlonde.
"The Shape of Air" on Darn Floor - Big Bite.


Just to name a few...

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Posted by Cynthia on 07-30-2008 at06:01:

 

quote:

Originally posted by Gur Musically, I would agree, but I think conceptually the song is very important for this album ,if I have understood Mike's lyrics over the years. The rest of the lyrics are all about the basics of our faith: our abject fallenness and need for God's unmerited grace, the importance of prayer, etc. Mike seems to connect with his fallenness most intimately (as most of us do or would do if we had eyes to see) in the area of challenging or failed relationships. I see thie final song as Mike saying, " I am right there with those old bluesmen and gospel singers of old who desperately need God, and this is where I most desperately need him." This is a greeeeeeeeeeeeeeat album, and I don't think the final song is out of place.

I agree that the song is depressing, but what a wonderful way to view it in relation to the spiritual realm Gur. I love what you said here. The honesty of the song though is the exact reason that so many of us are fans of this group. To share whatever is on their heart wether it be encouraging or horribly depressing, but still something we all struggle with at times, is the reason that so many have said they are fans. I know it's a big reason I am, so it doesn't seem okay to complain about it. When we put out our own album, then we can say how and what songs should go on it. It couldn't be very easy to create an album.

Not getting down on anyone or saying I'm right, it's just my opinion... but something to consider.

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Posted by Nailtatt on 07-30-2008 at07:12:

 

For the record (no pun intended) I am not complaining about the song by any means. I love it and am glad it's there! It just seemed a bit out of place musically but is an incredible song to be sure! I love the lyrics and as some of you have said; the fact the Mike and company are willing to share the lows of their walk with the rest of us is why we connect to them as fans! They are real, honest, open and put it all out there and I love that.

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Posted by Cynthia on 07-30-2008 at07:41:

 

quote:

Originally posted by Nailtatt For the record (no pun intended) I am not complaining about the song by any means. I love it and am glad it's there! It just seemed a bit out of place musically but is an incredible song to be sure! I love the lyrics and as some of you have said; the fact the Mike and company are willing to share the lows of their walk with the rest of us is why we connect to them as fans! They are real, honest, open and put it all out there and I love that.

Oh no... I saw it ... you were complaining... oh, and I am soooo disgusted with you right now.... Aaargh!!!!




















(nice point)

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Posted by Nailtatt on 07-30-2008 at10:13:

 

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Posted by Chesterdox on 07-30-2008 at11:49:

 

quote:

Originally posted by Cynthia I agree that the song is depressing, but what a wonderful way to view it in relation to the spiritual realm Gur. I love what you said here. The honesty of the song though is the exact reason that so many of us are fans of this group. To share whatever is on their heart wether it be encouraging or horribly depressing, but still something we all struggle with at times, is the reason that so many have said they are fans. I know it's a big reason I am, so it doesn't seem okay to complain about it. When we put out our own album, then we can say how and what songs should go on it. It couldn't be very easy to create an album. Not getting down on anyone or saying I'm right, it's just my opinion... but something to consider.

I'm not complaining, I just think the song sucks.


I'm kidding,I'm kidding! Everybody's a critic.


Here's another: Behind That Locked Door wasn't a good fit on Wide Eyed Wonder, either, and I really enjoyed that song, too.

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Posted by peawinkel on 07-30-2008 at20:26:

 

I hated Behind That Locked Door. Probably the worst Choir song ever. Oops...I think I just burped a vomit.

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Posted by dennis on 07-31-2008 at02:26:

RE: worst "Choir" song ever?

George Harrison just vomited in your mouth!

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Posted by Chesterdox on 07-31-2008 at07:25:

 

...and then gave you a wedgie!

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Posted by Nekkid Prey on 07-31-2008 at20:25:

  Tuesday Morning 3am Review

Here's Chicago Tribune's Andre Salles' review of HGB! It's near the top of the list. Enjoy!

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Posted by jeffrey k. on 07-31-2008 at21:18:

  RE: Tuesday Morning 3am Review

quote:

Originally posted by Nekkid Prey Here's Chicago Tribune's Andre Salles' review of HGB! It's near the top of the list. Enjoy!

A little clarification:

This is Andre's review that he posted on his blog:

http://www.tm3am.com/article_080702b.htm

Andre doesn't write for the Tribune....he writes for the Beacon news which covers Suburban Chicago stories and is part of the Chicago Sun Times family. He also wrote the press bio for "Holy Ghost Building..."

A review in the Sun Times by another writer is supposed to happen...

jeffrey k.

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Posted by Chesterdox on 08-01-2008 at05:40:



Spot on review.

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Posted by Chesterdox on 08-02-2008 at07:41:

 

I'm @ work on a Saturday and cranking Dedication to Pete Johnson by Memphis Slim (the link says it's a "sample," but it's the full deal. I have the album).

The 77's should definitely do a cover of this tune for their upcoming album: Raising the Roof: Holy Ghost Building II.

I'm totally serious... Mike.

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Posted by Alex on 08-04-2008 at15:22:

 

I can't connect to "Blue Moon". Sorry. Not my cup of tea. Weakest track for me.

Lyrically and thematically the closing track fits, but I think Mike would have been capable to forge the lyrics to a musically more fitting gospel blues tune. As it is it sounds quite disconnected to the rest of the tracks.

"Building" starts off strange... to my ears. Like driving with the brakes on. I think it would benefit from a little more punch.

The other songs are awesome. My favs are the Stones-esque tracks "I'll remember you" and "City of refuge". The Byrds- jangle on "What would you give" is another highlight.

88 remains my fav 77s recording.

Alex

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Posted by Alex on 08-04-2008 at15:23:

 

double post

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Posted by dennis on 08-04-2008 at15:41:

 

quote:

Originally posted by Alex 88 remains my fav 77s recording.

Yup.

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Posted by MarkyMark77 on 08-05-2008 at07:30:

 

quote:

The 77's should definitely do a cover of this tune for their upcoming album: Raising the Roof: Holy Ghost Building II.

Since someone else suggested a song for a possible sequel, I will jump on the bandwagon, too, with the understanding that Mike needs no advice from me. It's just a fun game.

So, my suggestion would be:

"Tell Me What Kind of Man Jesus Is" by Big Bill Broonzy

And, sure he's been done to death, but maybe a Robert Johnson cover, maybe "I Believe I'll Dust My Broom"?

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Posted by Doctor Love on 08-05-2008 at11:28:

  Lifetime In Wartime

We put it on there because:

a) it was part of the original sessions, which was curious

b) we don't put out singles so there's your single (I miss the 80's in England -- a single once a month whether you wanted it or not. The Smiths created an entire world with them. I miss that.)

c) we tried to be generous to our fans

d) I hate using the term "bonus track" because it looks clunky, so we left that off, but really ... that's what it was

e) woulda put it as a 'hidden track' but everyone complains when you do that

f) everyone complained anyway

g) no good deed goes unpunished

h) I regret putting it out now. Mark says screw everyone who cares and Bruce has no comment

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Posted by ciniree on 08-05-2008 at11:40:

 

It's your album and not ours, so don't worry about what anyone else thinks. You do what you gotta do and don't worry about it because no one can please everyone all of the time. There will always be criticism no matter what. A person could be a genius (like many great artists that died dirt poor, but now their paintings sell for millions) and there would still be criticism. Everyone agrees, though, that it's a GREAT album.